Comments on: Bye Bye Evolution… Welcome Back Thunderbird! http://ubergeeky.com/blog/94-bye-bye-evolution-welcome-back-thunderbird Let the hackfest begin... Sun, 29 Apr 2012 08:05:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Psylem http://ubergeeky.com/blog/94-bye-bye-evolution-welcome-back-thunderbird/comment-page-1#comment-669 Psylem Fri, 01 Jul 2011 01:07:15 +0000 http://ubergeeky.com/blog/?p=94#comment-669 I've only just now solved a minor problem that's been outstanding since I wrote this. Thunderbird uses 'cn' as the display name in auto complete. In our directory it should be 'displayName'. Here's a way to remap it... ldap_2.servers.MY_SERVER.autoComplete.nameFormat="[displayName]" You can do the same with email address format, so if the email is displaying wrong, you could do something like this... ldap_2.servers.MY_SERVER.autoComplete.addressFormat="[sAMAccountName]@domain.com" I don't think it's documented any where, there nuggets were found in this bug report and by looking at the source code... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119291#c13 I’ve only just now solved a minor problem that’s been outstanding since I wrote this. Thunderbird uses ‘cn’ as the display name in auto complete. In our directory it should be ‘displayName’. Here’s a way to remap it…

ldap_2.servers.MY_SERVER.autoComplete.nameFormat=”[displayName]”

You can do the same with email address format, so if the email is displaying wrong, you could do something like this…

ldap_2.servers.MY_SERVER.autoComplete.addressFormat=”[sAMAccountName]@domain.com”

I don’t think it’s documented any where, there nuggets were found in this bug report and by looking at the source code…

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119291#c13

]]> By: Markus http://ubergeeky.com/blog/94-bye-bye-evolution-welcome-back-thunderbird/comment-page-1#comment-654 Markus Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:12:44 +0000 http://ubergeeky.com/blog/?p=94#comment-654 I'm 100% with you on this. Evolution has gone down the drain. However, you don't have to use davmail anymore. Check this out: http://www.markuss.co.cc/2011/01/complete-how-to-setup-thunderbird-31x.html I’m 100% with you on this. Evolution has gone down the drain. However, you don’t have to use davmail anymore. Check this out:
http://www.markuss.co.cc/2011/01/complete-how-to-setup-thunderbird-31x.html

]]> By: Psylem http://ubergeeky.com/blog/94-bye-bye-evolution-welcome-back-thunderbird/comment-page-1#comment-649 Psylem Wed, 10 Nov 2010 01:36:14 +0000 http://ubergeeky.com/blog/?p=94#comment-649 I'm still using and loving this Thunderbird/Lightning/Davmail combination. It's so much easier to get it working now, but this way was far more fun at the time (nostalgia is great hey, I was probably cursing back then in reality). You can easily subscribe to shared outlook calendars too, just use the same settings you use to connect to your own calendar and change the user and it works fine. I’m still using and loving this Thunderbird/Lightning/Davmail combination. It’s so much easier to get it working now, but this way was far more fun at the time (nostalgia is great hey, I was probably cursing back then in reality).

You can easily subscribe to shared outlook calendars too, just use the same settings you use to connect to your own calendar and change the user and it works fine.

]]> By: Christian Taylor http://ubergeeky.com/blog/94-bye-bye-evolution-welcome-back-thunderbird/comment-page-1#comment-648 Christian Taylor Tue, 09 Nov 2010 17:45:45 +0000 http://ubergeeky.com/blog/?p=94#comment-648 I don't want to be even *more* of a nitpicker, but i just wanted to point out that Swing is a GUI toolkit, not a specific look and feel. How it looks depends on the LAF (Look-And-Feel) in use. You're probably referring to Java's default LAF when you say it's ugly, but any Swing app can use a much nicer one. There are native LAFs for Windows, OS X and GTK (Linux, etc). For example, the NetBeans IDE does this properly and on Windows, it looks like any native Windows app. On my Ubuntu Linux system, it looks like all my other native GTK apps. On Macs it even uses the single menu bar at the top of the screen. If a Swing app only uses the default (and ugly, I agree) look, it's because the developer was just lazy (or didn't care). I'm a Java developer and with just a few lines of code I can make Swing use the platform's native look and feel, and fall back to the ugly default only if it has no other choice. I've done this a number of times and it's very easy to do. Now, to actually be on-topic, thanks for this... I was looking to dump Evolution as well and DavMail looks really good! I don’t want to be even *more* of a nitpicker, but i just wanted to point out that Swing is a GUI toolkit, not a specific look and feel. How it looks depends on the LAF (Look-And-Feel) in use. You’re probably referring to Java’s default LAF when you say it’s ugly, but any Swing app can use a much nicer one. There are native LAFs for Windows, OS X and GTK (Linux, etc).

For example, the NetBeans IDE does this properly and on Windows, it looks like any native Windows app. On my Ubuntu Linux system, it looks like all my other native GTK apps. On Macs it even uses the single menu bar at the top of the screen.

If a Swing app only uses the default (and ugly, I agree) look, it’s because the developer was just lazy (or didn’t care). I’m a Java developer and with just a few lines of code I can make Swing use the platform’s native look and feel, and fall back to the ugly default only if it has no other choice. I’ve done this a number of times and it’s very easy to do.

Now, to actually be on-topic, thanks for this… I was looking to dump Evolution as well and DavMail looks really good!

]]> By: Psylem http://ubergeeky.com/blog/94-bye-bye-evolution-welcome-back-thunderbird/comment-page-1#comment-646 Psylem Fri, 29 Oct 2010 06:23:10 +0000 http://ubergeeky.com/blog/?p=94#comment-646 I stand corrected. Looks like a contentious mistake to make too! I've not touched Java since about 2004 and still get a twitching eyelid thing happening when ever I see Swing. I stand corrected. Looks like a contentious mistake to make too! I’ve not touched Java since about 2004 and still get a twitching eyelid thing happening when ever I see Swing.

]]> By: Jurrie Overgoor http://ubergeeky.com/blog/94-bye-bye-evolution-welcome-back-thunderbird/comment-page-1#comment-645 Jurrie Overgoor Thu, 28 Oct 2010 06:50:58 +0000 http://ubergeeky.com/blog/?p=94#comment-645 "I attempt to install it but I’m missing the dependency “libswt-gtk-3.4-java”. Oh boy, looks like it’s using ugly Swing for the UI." I don't want to be a nitpicker, but SWT is not Swing. Lot by a long shot :) SWT (http://eclipse.org/swt) is using native GUI components where possible, and thus isn't as butt-ugly as Swing. There are more advantages, but this is the main thing you see as an end-user. “I attempt to install it but I’m missing the dependency “libswt-gtk-3.4-java”. Oh boy, looks like it’s using ugly Swing for the UI.”

I don’t want to be a nitpicker, but SWT is not Swing. Lot by a long shot :) SWT (http://eclipse.org/swt) is using native GUI components where possible, and thus isn’t as butt-ugly as Swing. There are more advantages, but this is the main thing you see as an end-user.

]]> By: Psylem http://ubergeeky.com/blog/94-bye-bye-evolution-welcome-back-thunderbird/comment-page-1#comment-622 Psylem Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:33:56 +0000 http://ubergeeky.com/blog/?p=94#comment-622 If you can find someone with Outlook, there should be a way to find out what the "Exchange Global Address LDAP" is for you organisation by checking the connection settings. You could also try connecting directly to your Active Directory server on the standard LDAP port. I think they are the same thing. If you can find someone with Outlook, there should be a way to find out what the “Exchange Global Address LDAP” is for you organisation by checking the connection settings. You could also try connecting directly to your Active Directory server on the standard LDAP port. I think they are the same thing.

]]> By: Charles http://ubergeeky.com/blog/94-bye-bye-evolution-welcome-back-thunderbird/comment-page-1#comment-620 Charles Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:02:30 +0000 http://ubergeeky.com/blog/?p=94#comment-620 I've been using Thunderbird and Lightning for a while. I left Evolution largely because of the really sucky HTML, especially when replying to other Outlook users. I didn't quite get how you connected to the Exchange LDAP service. I've tried, but haven't gotten through so far. I'm guessing that it might be a matter of the Exchange configuration, and if that service is exposed. We're actually hitting our Exchange over the Internet, so it wouldn't be surprising if they have closed down some of those ports! I’ve been using Thunderbird and Lightning for a while. I left Evolution largely because of the really sucky HTML, especially when replying to other Outlook users.

I didn’t quite get how you connected to the Exchange LDAP service. I’ve tried, but haven’t gotten through so far. I’m guessing that it might be a matter of the Exchange configuration, and if that service is exposed. We’re actually hitting our Exchange over the Internet, so it wouldn’t be surprising if they have closed down some of those ports!

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